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Stumpage prices E/W of the CT River THAT different
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kevscannell
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Stumpage prices E/W of the CT River THAT different 1 Year, 1 Month ago  
I'm not an avid timber manager, but I know I do have some value in my woods, and I like to follow its potential value in the marketplace. I've had one excellent timber sale, and I'm not opposed to a harvest now and then. Hey- these days it's better than following my IRA!

For those of you who wonder, I check out the quarterly stumpage price survey results here:
masswoods.net/index.php/stumpage

so now my question: Stumpage values east and west of the river vary widely by species with the hardwoods being generally a little higher in the west and the softwoods higher in the east. What drives the difference? Is it trucking, local regulations, distance to sawmills, quantities available, local demand or what? While the price is surely some combination of these factors, are there one or two clear drivers?
 
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Re:Stumpage prices E/W of the CT River THAT different 1 Year, 1 Month ago  
Hi Kevscannell.

interesting point about stumpage prices. and yes, i'd always prefer to follow the timber marketplace compared to other more dismal financial ones.

We've been collecting stumpage data since 1988 in CT, MA, and RI, and aggregating it on a quarterly basis. and as you know, these quarterly reports can all be found online here: masswoods.net/index.php/stumpage

there are consistent and significantly different prices for oak east and west of the CT River. those of us that gather the stumpage data felt from the start that we ought to collect, analyze, and report on these differences to give people the clearest picture of the stumpage marketplace. we believed it did a disservice to people with excellent oak stands to somehow lump their data in with stands of lesser value. especially if proven statistically significant differences existed.

I believe the basis for the significant differences lie primarily in the differences in soil type, stemming from differences in bedrock geology. there are lots of indirect indicators of this- spend a day driving around east Franklin county, e.g., and see how little of the landscape is dedicated to agriculture, compared to west county. same can be said for the differences between VT and NH to the north. you see the same thing in CT. i suspect a review of the soils maps and NRCS estimates of productivity would show the same thing.

it will be interesting to see what happens to the timber marketplace when we do finally emerge from this recession!
 
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